Posted 2017-01-06 10:05 PM (#175 - in reply to #174) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 618 Location: Hull, UK
Neat.
Sorry I've been quiet as of late, I've been weighed down with things. Otherwise I've had work that needs doing in the shed so it can survive the winter and I have spent a lot of time contemplating my existence and what to do with it. Nothing bad, but things have to change drastically and I need to figure out a way of making this happen, it's all a bit stale at the moment.
Posted 2017-01-06 11:28 PM (#176 - in reply to #175) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 671
Yeah....
I have been looking at prices on that Tape drive and cartdridges for it.
It's bloody expensive for what I can tell, and there is no way of telling if the drive is working.
And there is no way in hell I can store 400gb uncompressed and 3tb compressed on a retro
machine. And a server is not something that I have.
To be honest.... I have no clue what to do with the bloody thing.
Give away? Sell it? (and at what price) Keep it?
One thing is shure. It would make an expensive door stopper/"Large-Attetude-Reajustment-Tool".
Posted 2017-01-09 11:31 AM (#178 - in reply to #176) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
Harris 286
Posts: 15 Location: Sunny Blackpool
The tape drive you have is an LTO2 thing, so the raw capacity is 200gb per tape. I would have a dig on eBay for no other reason than these drives make fun noises when they are working
Posted 2017-01-09 1:32 PM (#179 - in reply to #178) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 671
Nice.... Sweet.
Yeah. 200gb of data is kind of stupid in terms of old computers. Yet it could be a nice thing to use in a home server.
Though personally, I am using USB harddrives for backing up data instead.
Just investigated that sales add on eBay, and there is no shipping for my country specified, so it might get expensive
and it might not. And if the drive is dead, well... Then I have blown a lot of money on nothing.
The drive are actually quite expensive as far as I can tell. So I am going to see if I can swapp it for some other kind
of drive, that I know I am going to be using in a retro rig. Just going to find someone that has something untested.
I am however going to get a blank ZIP-100 media these comming days. Found someone that will ship one for free.
The thing is, that I have an internal ZIP-100 SCSI drive, taken from an old and dead Apple PowerPC.
The drive are being detected by every controller that have had it connected, and the internal termination works.
So I am hoping this drive is working. I just love all sort of storage media and drives. Yeah....
Posted 2017-01-09 4:12 PM (#181 - in reply to #179) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 618 Location: Hull, UK
I have little experience with such drives, where I worked we inefficiently stored things on stacks of hard drives.
Meanwhile I carried out threats I made in my Mario 64 Let's Play... Not sure I've uploaded the part where I threatened this yet, don't think I do it until late in the game, but this will be published some time after the Let's Play is completed;
I warn you, it's bad, but it's bad on purpose. Less than an hour, first take, rubbish. I'm a keyboard player, not a vocalist.
Posted 2017-01-09 5:12 PM (#182 - in reply to #181) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 671
DXZeff - 2017-01-09 6:12 PM
I have little experience with such drives, where I worked we inefficiently stored things on stacks of hard drives.
Meanwhile I carried out threats I made in my Mario 64 Let's Play... Not sure I've uploaded the part where I threatened this yet, don't think I do it until late in the game, but this will be published some time after the Let's Play is completed;
I warn you, it's bad, but it's bad on purpose. Less than an hour, first take, rubbish. I'm a keyboard player, not a vocalist.
I don't care how bad it is..... It's a nice sing along beer tune. You made me laugh. :-)
I bet it will go nice, when doing some hefty drinking at the pub.
Kind of depressing and happy at the same time.
Posted 2017-01-12 11:18 PM (#189 - in reply to #187) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 671
Robman - 2017-01-11 7:33 AM
I sure wouldn't sell that old p1 thinkpad. How much would you really get for it?
Not going to sell eighter, not right away that is. I need to refurbish it first, in order to get it running 100% again.
You know... Replace that lid because of it's crack's and take care of the battery.
If I had to sell it as it is right now, I guess I will be getting something like 35 US Dollars for it.
And it is actually more fun to restore it, and then sell it. Not because it will be more worth.
It is because it will be fun to restore, and the higher price can then be payed for with a slightlt higher sales price.
I might just take out the battery and let it sit for a couple of years. No hurry in fixing this one up.
Posted 2017-01-20 6:36 PM (#192 - in reply to #191) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 618 Location: Hull, UK
Oh, a DX4-120 eh? Don't see those very often. I think I have one, but it has a heatsink I can't removed and my just be a 100 that was overclocked in the board it came with (The FIC I used to own). With a WB capable motherboard it should be quick, easily within P66 territory for DOS and probably somewhat usable up to Windows 95.
Zip disk... Zip... (Roars angrily) I lost to that twice, my money was on Magneto-optical formats first and later LS-120, I've never forgotten and still refuse to own Zip drives on principal. :D
Sorry I've been quiet here as of late, I've had a lot going on. I'll be backing the server up in the next few days and then I'll look at pushing the forum in a few places to see if I can wake it up a little.
Posted 2017-01-20 7:50 PM (#193 - in reply to #192) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 671
Yeah...
I got that zip disk, in order to test my old Zip-100 SCSI drive. I am really not going to store anything valuable on it, as it will be part of my collection, in a kind of historic light or something. Hopefully it will still functioning. The Dx4 chip.... Hmmmm.... I have been on eBay searching for 120 editions, just to see how many there are for sale in the wild. And I have not found any other. Don't care for the value, as eBay is scheisse when talking about value. Too inflated, and I am not going to sell it anyway. Well.... Perhaps the 5x86 chip, as I had one in the first place. Keep for historic purpouse or sell... Hmmmm... Shalespearian dilemma. To sell or not. :-D
Going back to that Dx4. I think they are rare and hard to get these days. And running it at 150, should give 50 in fsb. I just don't know if I want to.
Looking forward to see, if this forum can be used more. I kind of feel, that I am one of the most active one here.
Posted 2017-01-25 2:00 AM (#194 - in reply to #193) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 618 Location: Hull, UK
Briefly tested the replacement for the DX7, the CZ-1;
Not played well due to its current, awkward position on the keyboard stand, plus it does take me a while to get used to new keyboards, all of them play a little different, different key weight and such. I haven't tried programming yet either, but I don't imagine it to have any problems as it speaks the same language as the other CZ keyboards, it just has a couple of extra parameters and should even be patch compatible otherwise.
Is it just me, or does the output sound cleaner than it does on the others? Either way, I like it so far. Thinking of moving the keyboard stand elsewhere and setting my dual P3 up as my music machine, it should be capable of running Cakewalk and my legacy software that only runs under 3.1/9x, such as some of the SysEx editors for the MU90R, but at the same time, it should run things like VitrualCZ if I need them - I usually use outdated software, but whilst VirtualCZ isn't entirely accurate, creating and testing patches with it is much faster than said outdated tools. Other possibility is a fairly boring P4 Hewlett Packard desktop I was given last year. Probably use one of my many, generic VIA Envy24 sound cards as they seem to use those in studio-grade shit now anyway (Only not for the £5 these ones cost) and aside from issues with levels I could easily bypass, it seemed to do fine when used for "Driving at Night" a few years back, the only track made using one. I'd still have a SB Compatible card for DOS so the lack of hardware MIDI interface doesn't really bother me, my AWE64 Gold no longer has an Athlon to live in because of my current K7 being PCI, so it should do well in the P3 whilst not bugging the Envy - the Envy would probably be disabled under 9X anyway and certainly wouldn't be running in DOS.
Edit: Video might take a while to work if anyone got here early.
@Brostenen; If you decide to sell the Am5x86 let me know as neither of mine made it here when I moved, I suspect they're probably among the smashed pieces I found a few streets away.
Posted 2017-01-25 4:38 PM (#195 - in reply to #193) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
Chips 386
Posts: 38 Location: Canada
Brostenen - 2017-01-20 3:50 AM
Going back to that Dx4. I think they are rare and hard to get these days. And running it at 150, should give 50 in fsb. I just don't know if I want to.
Looking forward to see, if this forum can be used more. I kind of feel, that I am one of the most active one here.
Pretty cool old chips you've got there I love having different generations of computer stuff, although when I do play with something quite old, I usually get sick of it pretty quickly because they're just so damn slow, hehe. For instance, I'd like to put my amd k6-2 450Mhz back together and make it a complete machine again but ya know... slowwww. I think maybe a p4 2.8ghz hyper threaded would be about as low as I'd go for a daily driver anymore.
I've still been just using my laptops for the past few years, I'd love to beef up my c2q q9550 machine with atleast 6gb of ram and a generous video card. The most powerful video card I own is an xfx gtx260 (216 stream processors, 448bit.) I know, I'm behind the times other than the i5 laptop I have, but the q9550 is still a very powerful and interesting chip, at least I think so.
As for forum users, it's not easy to simply make a forum and then have it be immediately booming with traffic. Just gotta not worry about it, what happens, happens.
Posted 2017-01-25 11:45 PM (#196 - in reply to #195) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
Chips 386
Posts: 38 Location: Canada
Stopped by the local little computer shop today and bought these 2 items.
Needed some more dd2 800Mhz memory, these patriots should go in the q9550 machine nicely. It's a 4gb set at 4-4-4-12 timing, doesn't really match the 2gb set of Corsair XMS2 memory so we'll see how I manage things when I do install them. Anyway, what do you audiophiles think of the Audigy 2 ZS platinum? Got it for $5 and the ram for $30(cdn)
Posted 2017-01-26 8:52 AM (#197 - in reply to #196) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 618 Location: Hull, UK
I used an Audigy 2 ZS in the Pentium D for years, in fact, it is the same card I recorded my keyboard test with above. It's a great card, many inputs, hardware mixing and effects, working SPDIF. Definitely missing it since the move to the Xeon.
Unfortunately, as you can tell by the ungodly noises, mine is long since past its best.
Posted 2017-01-26 8:43 PM (#198 - in reply to #194) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 671
@Brostenen; If you decide to sell the Am5x86 let me know as neither of mine made it here when I moved, I suspect they're probably among the smashed pieces I found a few streets away.
I will keep you in mind, if I decide to sell it. As of now, I really need to play around with it at first.
Will be reserving it for you, if the time to sell comes. :-)
Posted 2017-01-26 8:51 PM (#199 - in reply to #71) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 671
@Robman
Yeah... I got a functioning machine with every major CPU generation. Shure a lot are missing, like IBM 6x86 and that stuff.
I just like to have a working collection, with AMD and Intel processor's. I gor in the neighbourhood of some 11/12 machines.
I need to take new photo's, yet this is more or less my collection. Yes. Some systems are missing, as I have build them
since I tool these photo's and some are taken apart and rebuild into other systems.... 80% are still as they were on the pictures.
Posted 2017-01-28 10:18 PM (#203 - in reply to #200) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 671
Pretty nice collection there Bros... keep it up
Thanks... Need to get a hold of that elusive Socket3 VLB/ISA mobo now.
2 to 3 AT-Cases and 3 ATX PSU's with -5volt rail.
Then some IDE to SCSI converters, and my collection is done.
I really need to build that 486dx2-66 VLB system now. Not because I
am missing some computing powers of a specific kind. It is more like a
thing, were I do not have that type of pure-bred slot-type kind of machine.
Basically, for historically reasons.
Posted 2017-02-01 7:17 AM (#205 - in reply to #204) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 618 Location: Hull, UK
In the case of the Atari, I can't help think it might be more the fact that there is practically nothing in there. Also, nice albums, think I saw them once before but my memory is unreliable at best, I like the Athlon 1400 because I remember a very similar one being around at a few LAN parties I went to years ago, it materialised quite late in the Athlon's life because the guy who owned it used second hand parts for everything.
In other news, I got hold of this thing for less than the CPU alone can go for; http://imgur.com/a/t22aD
Deskpro XL 560
Pentium 60MHz SX948
48MB RAM
2GB Seagate IDE Hard Drive
50-Pin SCSI Interface (Not currently used and I missed this on first inspection somehow, though I was extremely tired)
AMD PCNet Ethernet
Analog Devices SoundPort (I have no experience with this one but it has a YMF262 onboard)
Matrox VGA card, factory original, PCI
EISA Interface
Needs some work, but appears to be minor things. Overall it should come back to life quite willingly and I think I might go with Windows NT 3.51 for this one.
Posted 2017-02-01 10:44 PM (#206 - in reply to #205) Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with
TM Crusoe
Posts: 671
That's a sweet EISA system you got there. Never seen EISA and PCI slots on a Pentium machine before.
Congrats with it. Will you make a video about it, or are the video creation history from now on?
NT 3.51 seems like a nice choice for it. Though I would personally go for 4.0 on a system like that.
I remember that in the school I attended in 1995, there was a HP or Compaq in a tower with a 486,
running NT 4.0 Workstation. I think it had 12mb Ram or something like that. It was black or grey or something.
For me, I have had the opertunity, to buy this this little device on eBay, from netherland, for 40 euro including shipping.
I think it should be a little better than the RPI-3, and the best thing is onboard Sata-II port and Wifi.
The only downside as such, is that there is no bluetooth build in. I can allways use a dongle instead.
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