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Brostenen
Posted 2018-01-17 10:37 PM (#1150 - in reply to #71)
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I bought this Tseng ET-4000 PCI card a while back. Actually... I bought an ET-4000 ISA card a while back, and the seller (shop in Germany) reported back that they had none left. Some sort of storage inventory error of some sort. So they asked me, to pick something else and I picked this card. I did not even have to pay additional fee or something like that. All in all... I recieved this card for only 9.99 Euro, plus 10 Euro for the shipping. Can't complain....

All that said... I finally had time to test it yesterday. And it is working like a charm. I was a bit worried, that it could not be used without the daughterboard, yet it is working just like any other VGA card. The best part is the signal quality. It is strong and on a LCD screen, there is none of those spaghetti lines. (I am speaking of those vertical white or beige ones)

The card is build solid. Thick PCB and good components. Just a wonderfull card. Though it really need a 486 system, in order to be used era correctly. And in that case, I am thinking about something in between highend and mid-range 486 systems. Something like a dx2-80 to dx4-100 with PCI slots and 16mb of Ram. And it is for those that want something a tad different in their collection of old hardware.


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DXZeff
Posted 2018-01-18 5:51 AM (#1151 - in reply to #1150)
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That is a truly lovely card, looks like it would have video acceleration or something if you found the proper driver for it, but that is probably long since lost to history as is the case with many of these.

Meanwhile I guess I should show this here;
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I have big plans for this camcorder. Here's a quick clip of it running, though with no good way to digitize it currently it isn't doing it justice, the picture quality on a good VHS tape is surprisingly sharp all things considered;
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Brostenen
Posted 2018-01-18 9:02 AM (#1152 - in reply to #1151)
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Cool video recorder. I once, back many years, made a shortmovie using one that looks like that. The theme was dispair, loss and greef. So the movie is about suicide. Heh'.... I made some woman in the class cry. So mission accomplished I guess.

Regarding the ET4k card. It is for some rgb processing daughterboard or for a microscope or something. The second chip is an ET4000w32p as well. :-P
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DXZeff
Posted 2018-01-18 4:43 PM (#1154 - in reply to #1152)
Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with



Pentium II

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So it's not a V33? Now that is unusual.

Back in college I made a documentary using 16mm film, it wasn't great or anything but it was the only camera I had that could operate outside at the time, the digital one used to film for the internet lacked the capabilities or capacity to be of any use for the project. At the end of it all they wouldn't let me show the film at college for fear that it might scare people or some bullshit, it wasn't that in truth, it was because the teacher hated me and did everything he cold to try and fail me or have me thrown out. Jokes on him, I guess, because I was going to leave on the first day, I only stayed because he made the mistake of telling me he wanted me out. Either way, I spent all that time riding around the country filming in rain and thunder storms for nothing, all that hassle of getting the film developed and digitized, it sucked. Anyway, film is a technology I would never go back to for video, it was simply horrible to work with, but I have no gripes going back and playing with VHS again because that stuff just works.

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Brostenen
Posted 2018-01-18 7:52 PM (#1155 - in reply to #1154)
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Have to check. 32 or 33 are so close, and now I am not so shure that I read it correctly. That's for tomorrow, as my son is sleeping it the room tonight.
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Brostenen
Posted 2018-01-19 3:41 PM (#1156 - in reply to #1155)
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Yes. You are right. I must have read wrong. Yet what is a V33 chip? What can it do? All I know, is that the chip might be named viper or something like that, after some google searching.
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DXZeff
Posted 2018-01-21 11:49 AM (#1157 - in reply to #1156)
Subject: Re: Recently Played/Bought/Messed with



Pentium II

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Primarily it was used as a video interface and accelerator, but its video acceleration was primarily aimed at Vector Quantization, not at Motion Compensation as was used in later CODECs - short version; it would help playing something like Video 1 but it will do nothing in the way of things like MPEG. Some Viper chips were hooked up to Zoran MPEG decoders with a second buffer or were wired to allow video capture in some way, it greatly depended on the device.
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waybacktech
Posted 2018-01-22 6:21 PM (#1158 - in reply to #1157)
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Cyrix 6x86

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You need a BMW sticker on that camera now.

Here are a couple of photos, not mine, of a couple camera's I have.

First one is a vintage, early 80's or about there Sears Video/Sound camera. Very serious lens on this thing. This is one of those camera's that had no mechanism to record anything, so it was made to go with one of those
portable VCR's that you could lug around and use in your car's 12v cig lighter. Mine is like brand new, I don't think it was ever used, original box/packaging and cables.

The second is the Sears VHS camcorder I was telling you about in your live chat. I think this was made by RCA for Sears in the early/mid 90's. Works great as well.I have the case for it, bad battery but runs off wall adapter/charger. B&W view finder and does playback. It might be one of those little CRT ones, probably I would think for the era. I can't believe it would be an LCD being a cheaper 90's camera.



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Old Guy 88
Posted 2018-01-23 10:53 PM (#1160 - in reply to #71)
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Just saw waybackteck`s new project on youtube. I hope you have better luck with yours than i did with mine
Built it last year sometime, was a pain to get set up and has been sitting ever since
ASUS M2N32 SLI Deluxe
Athlon 64 X2 6400+
4GB Ram
2 PNY 9800GTX+ in SLI
500GB WD hard Drive
Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
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Can`t wait to see what you do with yours


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Brostenen
Posted 2018-01-25 4:35 PM (#1161 - in reply to #1160)
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Found this for sale locally.... Compatible with DVD, Playstation1, Playstation2, Commodore64 and Amiga600.
Wonderfull picture quality. Nearly as good as CRT, when using Scart cables. 20 Euro as a pickup offer.
It has S-VHS, Scart, Component and VGA input. No HDMI as the television is too old.
Good picture and no lagging. Only problem is a slight ghosting in Workbench 2.10 yet nothing too annoying.

More pictures of the television in use...



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DXZeff
Posted 2018-01-27 12:46 AM (#1162 - in reply to #1161)
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I miss having my big screen set up, but I've nowhere to put it and can't move it anyway because it is too large and heavy, so for now I just have to hope the sun isn't bleaching the screen or something.

Otherwise, I ordered these a while ago;
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Captured images are only from the AI Gotcha as I don't have a battery for the Snappy right now. These devices are cheap and don't really have much if any use today, but they're novel in their own right if only for how they use the parallel port for something it really wasn't meant for. Naturally real-time video is not possible and, so far as I am aware, the Snappy's preview is a small monochrome image every few seconds, its manual is amusingly sarcastic and such though.
The grimy quality of the image has some subtleties which remind me of some of the lesser magazines from that time, perhaps they used similar technology if not the same devices.

Should also add, props to whoever designed the AITech box, looks good - Wacky yellow text with shadow, check. That chassis design, check. That device is possibly the more interesting because the manual suggests it needs your PC to have an FPU and appears to use some kind of compression to stuff the images into the LPT port. Snappy is an older, more bare bones approach. Sad thing is, they still lock onto more signals than most modern devices will for analog video, or the AITech does, the Snappy will be guilty of major false advertising if it doesn't and I've no reason do doubt it can snap frames from a VCR or SNES.

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Brostenen
Posted 2018-01-27 11:23 AM (#1163 - in reply to #1162)
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Been investigating, why some ADF files when written to floppy disks. Will result in a non bootable NDOS disk.
So far, I have not been able to figure this out in dept. Only found info, that states that it resulted in a NDOS disk.
Yet I want to go deep.... I want to know what is going on. Yet all I can find is statements that tell nothing.
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waybacktech
Posted 2018-01-30 5:22 PM (#1167 - in reply to #1162)
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I remember those capture boxes. I sure do recognize that computer case shown. I would not mind at all having the camcorder and vcr shown on the box personally, them there look pretty fancy. So this little device is probably, what, CIRCA 1996? with the win3.1 95 NT OS designation.
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DXZeff
Posted 2018-02-06 2:43 AM (#1168 - in reply to #1167)
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Damn server keeps freezing up due to cold weather, might see about sitting it on a heat mat or something for the winter.

The Snappy is from 1995 and the AI Gotcha 2 is from 1997 so far as I know. Also forgot to say I like that first camera, looks rather utilitarian.


For fun I decided to compare the PAS16's FM to the SB16. They both use the same chip, so in theory they should sound identical, but this highlights something emulators will never be able to replicate; subtle differences in circuitry, or I imagine that's what's going on anyway.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/xy15y64s800bb20/PAS_ONWD.flac
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Notably the PAS is 'louder' as the files were normalized to the same values. The square and its delay sound quite different in places, if you actually look at the waveform there are some major differences, some parts of it even seem to be inverted, which is strange as theoretically the same chip should produce the same wave every time regardless of which board it is stuck to. If you mix them, the waves are not in phase at all. I still prefer the PAS overall but that's probably subjective.

Used AdLib Tracker 2 and one of the included modules, ONWARD.A2M, which is a remake of DOPE.MOD from the demo of the same name. This tracker is a pieceashit, you have no idea how much hassle it was to get it running; To run it on the PAS16 was quite easy, I had to play with the configuration INI, then drop into WFW and back out for whatever reason (gives an Out of Memory if I try to run in WFW) and I simply put that down to not using a genuine SB or the Pentium being weird anyway... no, the hard part came when trying to run it on a real SB. First I tried the U5S and found that the tracker would crash with random text, the player would act similarly to how it did on the PAS16 initially, make random garbage sounds or crash, so I figured either it wanted an FPU (though the site doesn't say this and why you'd need one to control a YMF262 is a mystery to me) or else it just didn't like that system for whatever reason, it's an unusual CPU running an unusual version of DOS though the SB Pro 2 is just like any other. Tried the Nx586 because it was the nearest thing I had to hand with an SB card, the SB16, that just gave me a black screen but I'll let the program get away with it that time. Then I start using normal machines, neither 386 board (as I wanted to discount it having issues with the C&T) will run, just those garbage sounds in the player. K5 (borrowing the SB 16 and an SB Pro 2) gives no joy either. Eventually I got the tracker to run under Windows 95 on the POD with an SB16 though the visuals don't work, so I can't see what I'm doing.

Honestly I wonder how the world doesn't fall apart with the levels of incompetence people continually exhibit these days. One has to wonder if I'm just unlucky or if the author never tested outside of emulation because the way it behaves suggests a rookie mistake regarding extra initialization needed on later OPL3 cards not being done, but the problem is that the website has plenty of photos suggesting the author ran it on real hardware. I'm stumped as to why it is so bent on not working.

Anyway, the module only uses 2 operator sounds, so it's not pushing things as hard as it might, but it seemed like a good one to demo the differences between them.
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Dinomite
Posted 2018-02-09 7:05 PM (#1169 - in reply to #1168)
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Guess whos back? :D
I havent got much to show, but I've bought Batman Arkham Knight. Yeah, not exciting. I am, however, expecting a Namco System 246 in the mail soon!

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DXZeff
Posted 2018-02-19 12:41 PM (#1172 - in reply to #1169)
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Having played with BNC networks a little, I needed to set up a working grounding. Short version of the story is - the Pentium II is working, but that 'Yamaha' 744 is not and I simply cannot find one which does the stuff my old one did. I came to a compromise in that I do have SYXG-50 that I can use for XG testing as it should have the balls, even if it lags it doesn't matter as I wouldn't use it for the final render anyway as work would be passed to the MU90R then, I was only intent on a 74X for this convenient testing, but I can use a different hard wavetable in games as I'm not as fussy there and can still hook up the MU if I really want to anyway. This left me with less requirements - working SPDIF, wavetable, some DOS capabilities (they don't have to be very good) and preferably a PC Speaker hookup. Couldn't tick all of the boxes, but got close (at a hefty cost) with any luck;

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The K6 is also being reborn with the 5AGM2 motherboard and it also needed a sound card, almost got a Fiji, but ended up with one of these;
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This has destroyed my balance so they will be the last things for a while. Still, I have plenty of stuff to be getting on with in the meantime and honestly can't think of anything else that will be needed for some time yet. My argument is that AWE cards cost the same or more, but they sound like ass and the SB16 ability isn't worth is as their extra features aren't useful to me, leaving that as the only incentive. These cards are at least interesting, hopefully they work. The Malibu wavetable sounds quite strange at times, but it's growing on me.
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waybacktech
Posted 2018-02-22 4:33 PM (#1173 - in reply to #1172)
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That Chaintech motherboard has really good reviews from TH and Anandtech so hopefully it will end up being a good board for you. Looks like it has some decent bios options.
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