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Posted 2021-03-25 12:03 AM (#2111 - in reply to #2110)
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In many cases this is definitely true, because building things is fun. Unfortunately something like that would take up a lot of space that I don't really have. Soon I may at least have more efficient use of space as I'm considering ordering a bunch of steel and building a better desk, one that would let me put my stereo above the monitors, as currently that takes up an entire second desk.

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Posted 2021-03-25 9:59 AM (#2112 - in reply to #2111)
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DXZeff - 2021-03-25 2:03 AM

In many cases this is definitely true, because building things is fun. Unfortunately something like that would take up a lot of space that I don't really have. Soon I may at least have more efficient use of space as I'm considering ordering a bunch of steel and building a better desk, one that would let me put my stereo above the monitors, as currently that takes up an entire second desk.

Now that is not a bad idea. Building your own desks and shelfs and so on. It will be custom and fully up to your spec's and need's. :-) Great idea. For storage, I personally bought these shelf's from the UK last year. That was before the final effects of Brexit took place, and I was able to get stuff without import fee and extra vatt. You can say much about Brexit, but one thing is sure. That is, that Brexit is kind of making our hobby harder these days. Everything sold at more than 9 pounds and 16 pence, are being slapped with 25% vatt, when it comes to stuff shipped from the UK. Yes. Does not matter if shop is located in Belgium, and I bought from Belgium. If shipped from the UK, then it is vatt'ing-time. Plus the ones handeling the fee, will charge additional 18 pounds and 50 pence for doing the paper work, no matter the sales price. And if that is not enough, then import taxes can be slammed on top as well, if the item is above a certain value.

I can give you an example in terms of a GUS from USA. The ones that I can find, that was sold. Were sold at around 173 pounds. Plus shipping at aprox 28 pounds.

If I plot it in the vatt & import calculator, then the price would be around 270 pounds in total (shipping included). Now that is US prices, so they are lower than UK prices in general, as far as I understand. So a GUS might be way more expensive from UK than what I can find. Basically. Everything related to our hobby, are now a no-go when shipped from the UK. I do understand that vatt and import fee are a must. However when it is vintage hardware, sold by a private person. Then why vatt and import fee? Like we do not pay that when we buy from privates online here inside Denmark, and it is not like a vintage PC too slow for XP and no drivers for XP, can do any home banking and so on. Not to mention these old 8 and 16 bit computers, like AtariST or Commodore64 and other computers like that.

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Posted 2021-03-31 10:09 AM (#2113 - in reply to #2112)
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Next DIY-Soldering project are ordered.... They are so awesomme, that I will not say what they are yet. I will post more, once the first are build.

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Posted 2021-04-01 8:52 PM (#2114 - in reply to #2113)
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Brexit hasn't made that much difference to my purchasing, but likely as this continent is full of Amigas, Ataris and things like that whereas the US is where most of the PC stuff is. As I'm into PCs, most of my imports come from over there and nothing has changed.

Soldering is only fun on my own things. I despise having to do it for repairs because things insist on having massive planes that even my 200W iron can't heat far enough, not helped by the use of 'Nevermelt' solders where vias will burn before the solder ever melts, or 'Nevertin' wires, that go black instead of being tinned.

I added some potentiometers and stabilized some of the circuitry on my 'Video Bastardizer' which allows for slightly better CGA and EGA conversion, mostly green intensity is no longer reversed on EGA;

No tweaks for EGA secondary colors, only whether they're on or off, but this can be compensated for elsewhere.

Definitely looks better than what was on the previous page, now there are distinctly different shades of red;

Green works properly now;

Colors still aren't perfect and 'impure' ones like buttermilk tend to be washed out;

CGA still works, of course;

The colors will always be off, though now things can handle slightly more current, so screen brightness doesn't fade up and down quite as badly as before.
Probably no further adjustments will be made to this contraption and I still wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. Still, it more than achieved its goal; conversion without microcontrollers - though I would definitely suggest using one of the solutions based on those over my shitty zener diode voltreg thingy solution here, as it's just nasty. Also most monitors really won't like what this thing does and they could easily be broken by it. I'd be curious to know what it would do with the signals from an Amiga, or was it the Atari ST? I'm sure one of the old micros outputs an 'RGBI' signal that's fundamentally similar to CGA.

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Posted 2021-04-01 10:13 PM (#2115 - in reply to #2114)
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#DXZeff
Well... It is a nice thing you have created there. And you might be right that some monitors do not like it. I am not really that knowledgeable in how exactly video signals work in monitors as such. So I can not say anything about that. I have noticed that there are plenty of Amiga's around in the UK, and stuff have begun to pop up at lower prices on eBay. Mostly I have noticed that ready build 486 systems have dropped by some 5 to 10 percent.

I think it is both the AtariST and Amiga's that output RGB. The Amiga sure does that through that pain-in-the-ass hard to obtain 23pin connector. However that might just be analoge RGB. It is just the exact same signal that TV's used back in the days.

Yup. Amiga's are a rare thing in America. They were never really sold there. Europe on the other hand. We have been more Amiga land, even though it was only between 1988 and 1992/93 that the Amiga reigned supreme. Those are not many years compared to the PC. It was fun however back in the days. As for prices, then any Amiga will fetch a high price in America. I wont even dare to think about what a heavy upgraded 1200 will cost over there. Like. They are not exactly growing on trees here, and the NTSC model are even more rare. Ironically, the NTSC models have the worst software and games library.

Anyway...
I have been notified that my newly bought DIY vintage computer systemboards have been shipped. They will be awesomme to put together. One of them are for a modern case. Yup. It not a Spectrum. However it is the same, as if you got a hold of a spectrum systemboard in Mini-ITX form factor. Not going to say more, as it will spoil the surprise. Working or not, I will post the end result here and other places.

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Posted 2021-04-05 1:35 AM (#2116 - in reply to #2115)
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CGA and EGA output digital 'TTL' RGBI (well, RGBHV with an intensity pin) - in the case of EGA, it might be written something like RrGgBb, as CGA has a single intensity pin to control the two brightness levels. EGA has three, there being one for each color, labelled as 'secondary' colors but effectively acting the same way as the singular pin on CGA, only now for each color individually.

This is why CGA has a 16-Color limit, because the signal is digital so only has two states for each pin, not a bunch of voltages in between like analog, those being on or off, 1 or 0, 5V or 0V. CGA's 4 bits means 16 colors, eight with the intensity pin low, eight with the intensity pin high - if you're having trouble picturing it, maybe think of the intensity pin here almost like a 'signed bit' that, rather than being a color itself or adding more colors, acts more like a flag that affects the existing eight colors.

This isn't accurate to the palette or anything, but it should serve as a general indication;

EGA has a max of 64 colors, as there are effectively 6 bits - I'm not making a table for that, but you can probably at least gather that combining bright and non-bright colors is now possible, resulting in 64 possible combinations.

VGA is just analog RGBHV, so bit depth is largely limited by the RAMDAC and available memory on the card. To the actual monitor, it's now controlled by voltages, with the RAMDAC converting three 8-Bit color channels (24-Bit color) to three analog voltages. Whilst I'm not looking at the spec, you should have 256 shades of each color (though I guess the first would be black in every case) that can be combined in whatever way you want, resulting in 16777215 possible colors. Whilst your video card might say it's 32-Bit color, it's not entirely true, as actual colors are still only 24-Bit and eight more bits are for an alpha channel. 32-Bit accesses to the video memory are probably faster.
It goes without saying that older video cards with older RAMDACs weren't as capable. An 8-Bit RAMDAC only has 256 colors total and I don't think it was set in stone what you actually got - certainly sometimes less bits were given to blue than the other colors, I think this was generally programmable as to how you wanted it to work, though you're almost certainly only getting 2 or 3 bits per color.
Either way, VGA's voltage is something puny like 0.7V maximum, so everything is going to be in 1/256th increments of this if you have a 24/32-Bit RAMDAC driving it.
You can probably gather why using diodes and resistors from burned out stereos might not be a good idea, as there are definitely spikes that get through my device which likely aren't good for the monitor.

Sync is separated into horizontal and vertical, also at TTL voltage, though you could totally XOR them to get composite sync (use either an actual XOR gate built with transistors, a 74 series IC or else be cheap and use a capacitor, though this will produce an incredibly sloppy signal). XOR truth table;

Some cheap converters will only work with sync combined for some reason. My device can actually generate composite sync and composite video, though the latter only from a single color and it isn't stable. Sync is fairly stable though.
TVs don't use RGBHV, usually, they use RGBS (composite sync) instead. It is totally possible to convert this to separate sync (RGBHV) but the circuitry to do this is far more complicated than just a XOR gate. The TV actually does separate sync internally to drive the tube, though, so by extension I suppose one could also modify the TV to take separate sync directly, or maybe even tap signals from it. There's also a whole other bunch of stuff like SOG. With SOG, composite sync is carried by the green pin, combined with the green signal. Not much seems to use this and few monitors support it, but I've had a surprising number of video cards that have vias for the circuitry required to operate that way, I've even seen them modified to do it, so someone must have been using it somewhere.
YPbPr doesn't even carry a green signal, instead it carries luma and composite sync on what would be the green pin, then only carries the difference between blue or red on their respective pins and green is determined by yet another difference across the pins that I'm not 100% sure the specifics of, so the telly can worry about that one for me.

The only Spectrum I've ever had work is a Soviet clone, the original ones always showed up broken, invariably keyboard and RF modulator failure. Hopefully your kit is better made than Sinclair's ones.

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Posted 2021-04-05 4:49 PM (#2117 - in reply to #2116)
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@DXZeff
Damn. That is one extensive explanation of how the stuff works. Way deeper than I know, and I need to read it through a couple of times, in order to understand it. Though I don't think it is that hard to understand. It is just my fucking ASD thingy, that results in I have to read it through up to 10 times. Oh well...

The kit I bought, are not a Spectrum or any other type of Sinclair. It was just to give an example. However when you read through this forum, then you might guess what classic platform, that I have bought as an ATX board and in another PCB with the outlines of the Pulse rifle from Aliens. ;-) Naaa.... Not going to say much, other than it is based on the nearly pure 5volt version with more integrated IC's than the original from August 1982. ;-)

Yeah... I know. I am a teaser..... :-P

Anyway....
Spectrum clones you say??? Here you go sir. :-)

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Posted 2021-04-05 5:24 PM (#2118 - in reply to #2117)
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Just bough a load of patches for my battle vest...

- Coffin shaped "Express your self"-TypeO patch.
- Circle shaped Bauhaus.
- Egyptian ankh.
- 2 x Kyuss.
- Sepultura.
- Commodore company logo (because it is part of my childhood)

Have a few sewn on so far.... "too old to die young" circle shaped, Carnivore and Electric Wizard.

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And a box of 12 frozen donuts....

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Posted 2021-04-08 1:36 PM (#2119 - in reply to #2118)
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Boards arived in the mail today.....

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Posted 2021-04-10 9:55 PM (#2120 - in reply to #71)
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They are smart looking boards those! Loving the Commodore collection you've got going.

Zeff knows his stuff, laughed watching Waybacktech's vid and he was the high score on the benchmark he was running! :D

Oh, got a new PC the other day. Only a small one but it packs a fair punch, with an i5 10400 in it.

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Posted 2021-04-11 4:13 PM (#2121 - in reply to #2120)
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tedster - 2021-04-10 11:55 PM

They are smart looking boards those! Loving the Commodore collection you've got going.

Zeff knows his stuff, laughed watching Waybacktech's vid and he was the high score on the benchmark he was running! :D

Oh, got a new PC the other day. Only a small one but it packs a fair punch, with an i5 10400 in it.

Thanks... Well... Yup. Once they are build, then I have a nice collection. However it does not end there. Building 8bit's from scratch, are something that I am hooked on now. I want to build as many machines as possible. The way I see it, then it is basically not that different, than what went on in the mid to late 1970's in regards to home computers. People actually had to build their machines back then.

Now.
After having looked close on these two boards. Then I think that the Pulse64 are powered by a single 12volt DC input. That is a real upgrade from the usual 9v AC and 5v DC input that Commodore used. The ATX are powered by a standard ATX psu. There are other upgrades, such as build in lumafix that can be turned on and off by a jumper. There are also 2 sockets for SID chips on the ATX board. I can even upgrade the board with an expansion board, that have 8 sockets for SID chips. Oh-boy-oh-boy-oh-boy..... These are so nice machines. The pulse have one little design thing, that I am not that fond about though. It need two 555 chips that goes on the underside. If they are not socketed, then the finished machine will go into any C64 case. However if I choose to socket the chip, then the board will not fitt in a case. My plan is to build it with all chips socketed, and then do a custom mounting plate solution of some sort. Something a bit like a plate with feet's, that makes it tilt in a 20/30 degree angle. The board need to have 10 or 12 layers of lacker and then a plexiglass plate on top of the board. That will be an awesomme thing to have.

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Posted 2021-04-12 2:28 AM (#2122 - in reply to #2121)
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Old laptop PSU's can be useful along with those PICO ones. I watched a vid where a guy made one for a Tandy using those in a combo.

Speaking of Tandy, it was probably Radio Shack that sold DIY computers!

Anyway, you probably get more satisfaction building them your way. I get more fun "tinkering" with mine than playing games on them!

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Posted 2021-04-16 9:42 PM (#2123 - in reply to #2122)
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ATX C64? What a weird idea. Can't figure out what the slots are supposed to be for.

Was bored so played with music;

If you view it on YouTube the chapters should work. I like the SMW castle one the best, I think.

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Posted 2021-04-17 12:04 PM (#2124 - in reply to #2122)
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tedster - 2021-04-12 4:28 AM

Old laptop PSU's can be useful along with those PICO ones. I watched a vid where a guy made one for a Tandy using those in a combo.

Speaking of Tandy, it was probably Radio Shack that sold DIY computers!

Anyway, you probably get more satisfaction building them your way. I get more fun "tinkering" with mine than playing games on them!

The ATX64 have both connector for ATX-Psu and for 12volt PSU. Sp an old laptop one, can actually be used for testing, before the board in mounted in an ATX case.

I think I have heard it before, that Radishack did some kits. However I am not American, so I have no idea if it was the case.

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Posted 2021-04-17 12:08 PM (#2125 - in reply to #2123)
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DXZeff - 2021-04-16 11:42 PM

ATX C64? What a weird idea. Can't figure out what the slots are supposed to be for.

Oh... The slots are for expansion cards. Though they are not ISA slots, the maker of the board have created 3 or something. One of them is an 8xSID card and another is a I/O card of some sort. As far as I can see, then that card would provide 128 I/O ports and RGB-Led controll for LED-Strips and that sort of stuff. Plus the pinouts of the slots are avaliable in a PDF file, so people can create their own custom cards.

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Posted 2021-04-17 4:21 PM (#2126 - in reply to #2125)
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I did find a way to combine all three C64 roms into one file. Both boards use a single eprom chip for all roms at specific adress locations. Now I need to edit one of the bin files, in order to display a custom message when I power on the machine.

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Posted 2021-04-19 10:07 PM (#2127 - in reply to #2126)
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I recieved these 64-pin sockets in the mail today. And they are special sockets. They are not for the average 64pin MK68000 CPU's. Nope. The space are more narrow, in order to have an Commodore64 64-pin PLA sitting in the socket. They were extremely hard to source, as I had to search a long time on eBay. Sure I could have gone for leaf sockets that are standard, however I want the best for my next two homemade C64 clones. Turnpin I wanted, and turnpin I found.

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Posted 2021-04-30 8:12 PM (#2128 - in reply to #2127)
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I made a John Dillermand cake.....
It is basically a spunge/pound-cake, that are deconstructed to small pieces. Mixed with cocoa powder, raspberry jam, powdered sugar, vanilla sugar, whiskey and a tiny bit of melted butter. Then rolled into a log and covered with a thin layer of marcipan (3/4 marcipan and 1/4 powdered sugar) red food dye for the stripes, painted on top....

Yes, it looks like a giant penis. :-D However the cake is a tribute to the Danish childrens TV show called "John Dillermand". An awesomme show.

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Posted 2021-04-30 9:10 PM (#2129 - in reply to #2128)
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Haha, I know about John Dillermand and his phallic adventures.

Not much photo worthy going on here, but did get the DX-50 back into working order;

And I've decided I don't like having this stuck in sotrage, so it'll go in a case soon. Do I have a perfectly good 386? Yes. Do I have a perfectly good 486? Multiple. Do I need this thing? No, but I want it running and have enough parts to throw it together, plus I really hate just seeing it sat there doing nothing, so it'll make a nice little 486DLC machine to put in the rotation;

Otherwise, I took this song;

And tried to 80s-ize it with my appropriately aged synths;

(Plus totally ripped off the title card from The Raccoons and put crappy scribbles at the end)

Toying with trying another from the same game.

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Posted 2021-05-05 11:09 AM (#2130 - in reply to #2129)
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Got another Thinkpad. You can't have enough Thinkpads!

It's the venerable T430 sporting a 3rd gen i5 with some sort of Nvidia gpu in there too.

Nice machine, let's me play Bioshock, so it can't be all bad.

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Posted 2021-05-06 6:00 PM (#2131 - in reply to #2130)
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@DXZeff
Is this the picture you wanted of the board?

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Posted 2021-05-06 6:22 PM (#2132 - in reply to #71)
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And now for the progress on my ATX-64 machine. I am halfway through the solder work. Missing few components on the mainboard, and then I need to solder the two stackable riser cards. Need to buy some componentes more.

It is actually an interresting machine. There are access to the system bus, through the expantion cards. It can run with old and new SID as well as NTSC or PAL VIC (two crystals onboard), it has build in Lumafix and there are solderpads for hooking up an internal PI-1541 drive. There are S-Video port, Composit port and the old standard Video port. It can run with two SID's and there are Phono plug's for sound output....

I hope that I succeed in making a working ATX-64 machine.

Note... The standoff's are only temporary there, because it help me get the components more straight. Once the board are done, I will remove them. Else this is the best I can do, in terms of placing components straight.

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Posted 2021-05-07 7:45 PM (#2133 - in reply to #2132)
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Fantastic!

You're gonna need a big reel of solder. :D

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Posted 2021-05-09 7:58 AM (#2134 - in reply to #2133)
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tedster - 2021-05-07 9:45 PM

Fantastic!

You're gonna need a big reel of solder. :D

Yup. I have two roll's of 100 gram 60/40 solder tin. I hate using lead-free solder. One might argue that lead is bad for the environment, however I am not producing at industrial scale like Foxcon or others.

Thanks. :-)
I hope that I get it to work, and find a nice and awesomme case. This board are extremely versatile. I looked at the documentation and boards yesterday, and each time, I discover something awesomme. Like there are two internal drive connectors. One is the standard DIN plug, so I can actually strip down a real 1541 disk drive, and mount it internally in a case, and use the IEC cable. The other connector is for a PI-1541-Zero drive, that the shop also sell. The idea is to have pins and a single row socket, and that way have it connected on the Audio/Video board directly. The stripe-fix/Lumafix can be disabled or each potentiometers enabled independantly. And finally I found that I can make the sound go out as mono or stereo (mono-jumper).

He also sell Bluetooth/Ps2 keyboard adaptor boards, so I can use a standard PC keyboard. I believe that some sellers of keycaps, offer custom prints on caps. I could be wrong though.

I mailed with Matthias (the creator of ATX-64) and I asked him a bunch of questions. Both techincally and then how many Danes that have bought this board. He replied after looking in his customer database, that I am the only person in Denmark, that own an ATX64 board. So if this will work, then it will be an extremely rare machine here in DK. Kind of makes me humble.

Finally I discovered that the "ISA"-Slots are two contacts less than standard ISA ports. Yet I have found cheap gold plated ones on eBay. Not bought, only added to my watch list.

Oh man.... This is such a sweet board.

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Posted 2021-05-13 8:38 PM (#2135 - in reply to #2134)
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Finished up my custom ARM computer. Bases on an OrangePI Plus 2 board and SATA harddrive for storage. I have no idea what exactly to use it for.

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