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Location: Sunny Blackpool | (Yes I know this is cliched but whatever...)
It's too quiet here right now, so why not?
As I am writing this I realise I have no idea what a good 'introduce yourself' thread needs nor how to word it!
Here's an idea: Who you are, what you like to do?
In which case... I'm Ed (although the user name may have given that away), also known as 'classicmacintosh' on various other parts of the internet.
When I'm not at work (MSP) I poke about with computers (shock, horror) and just generally mess about.
(God that was terrible!)
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TM Crusoe
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Location: Hull, UK | I think the thread is a good idea, these are obligatory on most forums anyway. Anyways, welcome aboard classicmacintosh / Ed!
I guess it's pointless me writing in here, but, I'm High Treason, real name Paul, and I'm some boring bloke who plays with DOS more than is probably good for me. I also seem to find time for synthesizers and other old hardware, generally anything that runs on electricity, the kind of things your parents would have hated you getting for Christmas as a kid. | |
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Slow 8088
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Location: Quebec, Canada | My name is Daniel and i'm named "techboy411" on alot of sites... i like that name.
I'm the wierdo who loves Vista and 8.1 .
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TM Crusoe
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Location: Hull, UK | Hey, you made it! Nice to have you here dude! As a Vista fan you'll be glad to know that the Virtual Server here is running on Windows 2008 which was built from the Vista code base. | |
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Location: long island ,NY ,USA | My name is Chris i don't usually post on forums due the the fact people are rude ... but i have had the gamer tag Gameoverman for like 21 years.. if i killed you in counter-strike , or steamed rolled over your base in Command&Conquer sorry . i like computer , electronics , video games and guns . oh i have horrible grammar and don't really care | |
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| the names Daniel, can't you tell by my profile name? damn..
done tech support at college, do tech support for a local ISP.
always around to give some input on techie questions.
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TM Crusoe
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Location: Hull, UK | Hahaha, yeah in a way it was. If I could go back I'd have stuck with leaving on the first day though, I only stayed because Mr. Flanders wanted me off the course - I'm tempted to try sneaking that video up here, but it's not mine and I'd worry it came back to bite the responsible party in the ass somehow.
The things I remember most about that year are Rob calling everyone a peasant only to go on and have a breakdown the next year (Karma sucks), that other Danny threatening to knock me out and running when I waited for him at the foot of the stairs, and somehow managing to do almost a years work in the last hour. Still think I should have passed the web unit too and I still have no idea why I wasn't allowed to show the Global Warming video other than it being a deliberate attempt to fail me. Might actually be going back next year, but I won't be doing IT. Believe it or not, I never wanted to work with computers and it was only a hobby, but everyone set everything out for that and pushed me towards it. In reality I wanted to do plumbing, probably would have to do gas fitting as well as I think it's a requirement now.
I still have at least partial archives of the web sites I ran back then, as horrible as they were. I remember the one on AOL Hometown the best, that was a mess. Might come back with some screenies and rsources from it if I stumble across it as I'm digging in old files for when I get around to making a video about my Pentium D anyway, planning to look back at some of the earlier stuff it did, especially pre-YouTube... There's some really horrible stuff lurking in my archives. | |
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Chips 386
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Location: Canada | Never fear! Robman's here!
Hey, I'm Rob from Canada... I enjoy Build Engine games but mostly Shadow Warrior and my favourite hobby is motocross.
I also have lots of old computer "kit" as Paul would say.
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| Hi I'm Alex, I've been using the Ahcruna nickname since the days of Doom modem-play and TEN
I'm obsessed with old hardware and I find Pauls videos really entertaining | |
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| Hi, Nikolaos here, no weird user name . I entered the forum because of the really awesome youtube videos of DXZeff (high treason). My first retro PC experience was with a friend's Hyundai 8086 and my first own PC has a 80386 SX33 with no hard drive :D. The first PC I build was a celeron 333 slot 1...
I recently started collecting old computer stuff, I currently have a couple of pIIs and pIIs. Fortunately I found some good ISA sound cards for proper dos sound.
It is really tricky to find anything older than a PII here (Finland), I guess people just throw them to recycling...
Thanks for setting up this board!
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TM Crusoe
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Location: Hull, UK | @Robman; Good to see you over here! As you can probably tell, the version of this board you once knew has long since gone, though I think I still have a backup of the flat database I was using back then. I seem to think I was accidentally stealing your color scheme at that time too. I maintain that I didn't do that deliberately, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
@Ahcruna; I've seen you around in my comments before, welcome aboard! It's funny, part of me misses having to rely on dial-up modems, but another part of me is glad they're not much of a thing anymore. I remember the TEN days, just, even managed to play Shadow Warrior on it once or twice on someone's subscription, it all felt very futuristic back then. I keep pondering whether it's worth haiving a telephone line emulator to hand or not.
@Nikolaos; I have a friend who would approve of your first build, he got started on a Celeron 333 and he has fond memories of it. Pentium II machines are a good platform though, you can do a lot with Slot 1, especially if you do have access to ISA sound cards. They'll run DOS stuff, they'll even slow down if you mess with the cache, but they'll also run quite far into the Windows side too. Indeed, recycling seems to be a problem the world over these days, it's sickening to think how much has gone to waste. Good to have you over here.
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As mentioned yesterday when responding to Daniel, here's some college-era crap that would otherwise be happily forgotten about;
Should I look into modifying the IMG MBBS code to act more like it does on other forums, with an opening and closing tag instead of just IMG= as it is now? It would probably make it easier to copy and paste image codes from external websites. I don't know if it's possible, I'd have to screw around in the back end of the forum software, but I'm happy to give it a try.
That aside, I wonder if you remember any of this Daniel? The first image is a partial backup of my memory stick from some point when I was in college almost a decade ago. It seems my YouTube channel already existed because HTMOCFF.MPG is the original edit of my first video there. In another folder I backed up, I have the raw images for the matrix-head logo and for some other videos, but the resources for that one appear to be gone. On the logo thing though, you can see rubbish versions of my logo that were never used along with an intro sound I definitely didn't put to use. Some of the ZIP files, DOCs and PPTs contain college work. Among the files is a backup of my "Anti-college" website, primarily created to irritate IT Services, bypass some restrictions on the college systems and get people out of paying the ridiculous 20p-per-page it cost to print anything. Sadly the images are missing, but they involved the Hull College statue logo on fire and a modification of their "Inspired for Life" graphic which survives in its textual form only. The website was hosted at AOL Hometown and did not last long before being replaced, hosted elsewhere with extra features and tools I wrote (badly) instead of random crap from the web along with a more coherent layout (Hey, I edited the old version in the shot with Notepad on my lunch break, cut me some slack). I dropped leaflets off the top of the stairs to advertise the site and traffic picked up, I'd walk past the library, seeing more people using the site as it grew, eventually being noticed by IT Services and traveling as far as the Principal. It was a difficult disciplinary to get out of. Daniel may remember it happening, though he had no part in it so wasn't in the disciplinary itself. I got out of trouble because they didn't know the URL - I have no idea how they missed that, but IT Services were legendarily incompetent - so they took my memory stick from my bag without permission to obtain the evidence instead. I noticed the local address on the printouts and turned the tables by stating the teacher had violated my privacy rights, so if he wanted to continue to use it as evidence it was going to cause him more trouble than it would me. Otherwise, if the evidence went away I'd make the problem disappear and forget the incident ever happened. Needless to say, the evidence suddenly disappeared from the table, meaning the disciplinary was worthless because he could only say "Well... we have reason to believe you're hosting a website that..." to which I responded, "Any proof?" and he merely stared at the stack of printouts before sighing and saying "Unfortunately, no." before calling the whole thing done. If you'd met the guy, you'd probably understand why I was such an asshole to him, I certainly wasn't alone in feeling an immense dislike towards him. Admittedly, however, I was a complete douche as a teenager which likely didn't help... Evidently I also designed crappy websites too, it's probably just as well I used a pre-made forum this time around. I did make the template here though.
Ack, that came out longer than I wanted it to. I just derailed a thread on my own board, should I be penalized? Actually, that sounds kinda fun. :P | |
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Location: Canada | DXZeff - 2016-11-04 10:39 AM
@Robman; Good to see you over here! As you can probably tell, the version of this board you once knew has long since gone, though I think I still have a backup of the flat database I was using back then. I seem to think I was accidentally stealing your color scheme at that time too. I maintain that I didn't do that deliberately, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Always good to see you too buddy.
Indeed I was expecting the previous forum's format and I wouldn't blame you if you did purloin my color scheme a wee bit.. it's a sexy one!
Seriously though, I really like the vibe you've got going on here with this one, it feels retro but professional and I like the post count correlating to old pc processors. Seems like it could be fun and popular. Heck there's already a decent amount of activity here and it just started. If it's running on your own personal server and such, I hope you keep it online and that it prospers :D
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Ack, that came out longer than I wanted it to. I just derailed a thread on my own board, should I be penalized? Actually, that sounds kinda fun. :P
I hope the moderator lets it slide just this once, haha.
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| DXZeff - 2016-11-05 2:39 AM
@Ahcruna; I've seen you around in my comments before, welcome aboard! It's funny, part of me misses having to rely on dial-up modems, but another part of me is glad they're not much of a thing anymore. I remember the TEN days, just, even managed to play Shadow Warrior on it once or twice on someone's subscription, it all felt very futuristic back then. I keep pondering whether it's worth haiving a telephone line emulator to hand or not.
Yeah we've chatted a couple of times in 3DRealms and Duke4.
I didn't starts watching your videos until (I think) you did a Blood lets play though
your parody of LGR sealed the deal for me though. hilarious stuff.
also for the dial-up thing, I've heard people buying adapters for the Sega Saturn so they would be able to play net-link hehe
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Slow 8088
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| lol, i do indeed remember Danny... wasn't he the one who used to watch porn in class? went on to work for the IT team at college.. seems they needed more morons.
Bypassing printing was a god send, remember networking class? where you owned my "test computer"..made it pink etc remotely, those were simple times.
sam flanders was alright, seemed college had it in for you though :p | |
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Location: Hull, UK | @Achruna; Ah... yeah... Blood... good god, every time I go near that thing something goes wrong. It stands as the weirdest Let's Play I have ever recorded, both attempts that still exist. The second one has stranger things than the game bugging out because at times you can hear a faint voice at times, even stranger is that it sounds like a woman and I've only picked up on it so much recently. Occasionally you can hear someone coughing as if they were right behind me and yet, the whole thing was recorded in the early hours and nobody else was around. All I can guess is radio interference or something, but still can't really vouch for the reliability of the game in general and would even go against my usual insistence of using real hardware - it's one for DOSBox.
@Daniel; Yeah, he used to be allowed to bring his muddy bike into class too, I had to keep mine outside where people slashed my tires and stuff, security tried to fine me a couple of times too. It didn't stop me beating your bus to town every morning though. Yeah, I never actually saw that guy doing any work, so no doubt he got full distinctions, probably got full EMA as well, he'd fit right in to IT Services. Ricky failed though, I know that, because three years later he was taking the same course and, surprise, still hadn't joined the army.
I had no choice but to cheat printing, it wasn't like I could afford it otherwise, given I wasn't even eating because I couldn't afford to do that most of the time... I swear if I ever see another Wham bar I'll kill someone. I do, however, remember offering to print at home only to present my work on 15x11 fanfold paper from my wide dot matrix printer, as those were all I had and it wasn't technically against the rules so they had to accept it, my file didn't fit on the shelf properly as a result because they weren't allowed to fold it, serve them right.
I do remember screwing with things in practical, I also remember overclocking one of those machines just for the hell of it.
I'm not sure what I did to upset them to be honest. I didn't seem to get in shit in Amanda's class, or Andy's. Amanda was a strict cow and believed in rules, but she also believed in those same rules for everyone in the room so I had respect for her. Andy was cool though. | |
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Location: Wigan, UK | Rob here, I'm just a guy who spends pretty much all of his spare time playing around with computers, whether old or new. I rarely post on forums (Vogons was an awful experience from the few posts I made, two got deleted) and I thought making an account here would be worth a shot. Got into messing with older systems after stumbling upon @DXZeff's vids 4 years back, it''s what kick-started my interest in older systems. | |
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| DXZeff - 2016-11-09 11:20 AM
@Achruna; Ah... yeah... Blood... good god, every time I go near that thing something goes wrong. It stands as the weirdest Let's Play I have ever recorded, both attempts that still exist. The second one has stranger things than the game bugging out because at times you can hear a faint voice at times, even stranger is that it sounds like a woman and I've only picked up on it so much recently. Occasionally you can hear someone coughing as if they were right behind me and yet, the whole thing was recorded in the early hours and nobody else was around. All I can guess is radio interference or something, but still can't really vouch for the reliability of the game in general and would even go against my usual insistence of using real hardware - it's one for DOSBox.
when I think about it, I've never finished Blood with the expansion. even though I love that game.
Man, Blood II is cursed. I have never had so much hardware fail because of that thing.
I do have the GoG version, but have yet to try and replay it. I'm never running it on real hardware again though, the early Lithtech engine is possessed by the devil himself. | |
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Location: Hull, UK | @RobW0lf; Good to see you here. You'll be glad to know deletion isn't on the agenda and will only happen if people really cross a line - i.e; breaking laws or attempting to deliberately cripple the forum software, lines people generally don't cross anyway and conditions I think you'll agree are reasonable. Personally I'd rather only use the admin account for general maintenance and making sure things are running the way they're supposed to. In response to your post about the Phenom, feel free, it seems to be a popular platform and I can see why. Definitely starting to think I should fix mine just for fun, or as a potential replacement for the video wall controller which is currently a tad slow and I'm sure the Phenom probably has the balls to drive four low-res displays in software.
@Ahcruna; Some day I might go through and make a compilation of all the oddities I ran into in the first game. I have limited experience with Blood 2 as it doesn't like running at all, searching the web it seems this is common and finding the right patches is a pain, even then they don't always work. The only time I got it to run for any extended amount of time was on a Pentium II, the old 300MHz one, an it looked weird. Textures did not draw so it looked like a mixture of flat and gouraud shaded polygons, solid pixel particle effects and low frame rate with a tendency to exit to desktop at a moments notice. I never got it running again and lost the disc, I found it when moving but have a feeling it was in a box that didn't make it. The game felt underwhelming after the first one, as if it had no soul, it was completely different. All I can think of when I remember it is the swamp of dull colors and derpy AI yelling "I'll take your blood!" or "You will die a slow, slow death!" as Caleb unenthusiastically repeats "Make the hurting stop." and uncharacteristically screeching like a pussy when he gets hit. Actually, a lot of his lines sound like a completely different character to the first game despite being the same actor. | |
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| @DXZeff; wow I couldn't agree more about Blood II. The only line I actually remember that I liked was the "It's howdy doody time kiddies, the bad man is here"
not sure how far I actually made it in that game, it was somewhere after the Cabalco tower or a monastery fight with a beast. somewhere around there the game started killing off hardware, the first thing to go was my first Voodoo2 actually
I never had any problem running that game with era specific hardware, but from what I can remember, I fried 3 graphic cards and 1 CPU. I have no idea what could have caused it and to be honest I don't want to try again to find out. | |
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Slow 8088
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| I'm ComradeKek or just plain old J.P. a twat just slightly south of you High Treason in Lancashire. This particular twat has been following you on both channels some time now...into classic computing but never got into the more technical side of things and your channel helped me do that dude so thanks.
You're just about the only cunt on YouTube whos keeping shit interesting...one moment its deeply technical benchmarks and the next its a dick joke...its pretty entertaining.
Also would like to comment on your mini vlog at the end of your latest video regarding unscripted content. I for one would love to see this shit. The edited videos are awesome but I feel that you also have a knack for long form unscrpted content. Give it a shot mate. :-D | |
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TM Crusoe
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Location: Hull, UK | Lancashire eh?
Our rose is better than your rose! :P
Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I've been rebuilding my K5 and recording the process in pieces (I generally do that anyway, but never end up using the footage) and also found the glue I needed for another machine which now only needs a hard drive - a SCSI one, but I might just use IDE for now as I haven't actually tested to see if the board works very well yet. It isn't unlikely that I'll upload that footage at some point, probably over here to start with. | |
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| DXZeff - 2016-11-18 7:55 AM
Lancashire eh?
Our rose is better than your rose! :P
Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I've been rebuilding my K5 and recording the process in pieces (I generally do that anyway, but never end up using the footage ) and also found the glue I needed for another machine which now only needs a hard drive - a SCSI one, but I might just use IDE for now as I haven't actually tested to see if the board works very well yet. It isn't unlikely that I'll upload that footage at some point, probably over here to start with.
Haha.
But yeah dude fucking pretty much anything even unedited is all good. I think a lot of people especially people like you who have the gift of the gab underestimate your own ability to make an unedited video entertaining. Just go with it man. Of course keep making edited stuff but unedited stuff to stop us from starving in the mean time...even if it is just you smoking a roll up and having a grumble its all good.
I saw that video of you aimbotting/wallhacking on that TF2 server I fucking hate that game lol
I've been playing the fuck out of Oblivion...did you know its minimum specs was like a Pentium 4? I forgot how old it was...I might make an era appropriate build just for that game tbh...I really love it.
Anyway I'm rambling. I'm off to fall asleep to YouTube videos | |
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TM Crusoe
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| Hi from the northern part of Jutland in Denmark....
I had to check this place out.
My focus in computing, is the years from around 1985 to around 2001, as I think this is the most exciting years in the history of modern computing. Yeah... Shure there are earlier era's yet I have no real personal attachment to these era's. And the modern era (XP and on) just seem so dull... I think that is more or less the era of computers just being a tool and not a hobby thing. Ohhh well... It's late. Great to see this forum. Yeah... | |
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TM Crusoe
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Location: Hull, UK | Welcome aboard Brostenen. I tend to agree with that statement, once the P4 era arrived everything became rather samey and boring, certainly a contrast to 486 hardware where there were about a million different ways of doing the same thing. | |
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| Hello everybody!
My name will be kept private, but it starts with an R.
I'm a Polak living in the Netherlands with a fondness for video games and old hardware, be it consoles or computers or anything else out there thats not absolute boring shit.
I love anything from the beginning of time until the early 2000's in terms of games, music, movies etc but there are ofcourse some modern things i find enjoyable.
I chose to join the forum because it seems like a great place to kill some time and because my friend Treason owns it so i know it wont end up being a hunk of hubba-bubba-shite.
cj71984 - 2016-11-03 1:23 AM
My name is Chris i don't usually post on forums due the the fact people are rude ... but i have had the gamer tag Gameoverman for like 21 years.. if i killed you in counter-strike , or steamed rolled over your base in Command&Conquer sorry . i like computer , electronics , video games and guns . oh i have horrible grammar and don't really care
I could not agree more with you, Chris. Forums freaking stink most of the time. 99% of the moderators abuse their power (Isozone, Assemblergames, Basically any forum ever), the members are dicks, if your opinion differs in the slightest from the admins, you get permabanned + ip ban + put in the hall of shame for no reason whatsoever and the list goes on. Dinnae worry, knowing Treason this forum is never gonna end up like that. | |
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Slow 8088
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| hello all I'm from oop north (UK) been working in various disciplines in tech since 1994. At the start i was a network administrator and remember only too well installing MS Office on people's win 3.11 machines only to discover disk 17 was missing As i'm getting older i'm reminiscing more about old tech so it will be interesting to lurke in here and glean some knowledge. | |
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TM Crusoe
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| Hi...
Yeah... I think that would have been Office 4.2 as far as I remember.
The splashscreen in Word, was actually a piece of art, with that old filler pen. | |
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TM Crusoe
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Location: Hull, UK | Howdy, Letticefire. From the North eh? So you'd possibly know what I meant if I started using speak like;
It wahr maftin but started silin it doon when ahr wahr walking doon tenfoot, unnit ruined mahr chip butty. Got home and me mam started chowwin at me fuhrit "Stop yuh marnin ohrall brayya! Un' where's me patty!?" but ahrd bags'd foggy t' tax on t'telly t' watch Tahrgars 'genst Leeds un'me Dad brought me some Spanish fuh me ter eat what ee'd got up rurd, so I 'ad it whaahl I lig on t'settee.
- For anyone who ever wondered, this is what I have to listen to constantly, the way I speak is very unusual for where I live as I have not inherited the local accent or dialect. One interesting note is that in theory, Brostenen might recognise some of the words people use here as every so often, they have their root in Old Norse words that made it into modern Danish. I am informed by someone else that "lig" is still in use but its meaning has been distorted slightly when used in Yorkshire. | |
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Location: Georgia, USA | Hey everybody, I normally go by the name of Sparks online, but you can call me Tom if you'd like. I'm a guy who messes around with computers, both old and new. I never really post to forums but I hope to change that over time, I would of made an account sooner but I just never got around to it until now. My boyfriend @RobW0lf (re)introduced me to @DXZeff's channel a little over a year and a half ago now, I seem to recall stumbling upon it myself before that but I guess I just forgot to subscribe or something.
Anyway I hope this first post won't end up being my last! I seem to do that a lot actually, like I'll make an account and then never use it, don't really know why I'm like that, but I am. | |
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TM Crusoe
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Location: Hull, UK | Welcome aboard.
If it does end up being your last don't worry about it, I do that all the time on other boards so it would be hypocritical of me to expect others not to. | |
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TM Crusoe
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- For anyone who ever wondered, this is what I have to listen to constantly, the way I speak is very unusual for where I live as I have not inherited the local accent or dialect. One interesting note is that in theory, Brostenen might recognise some of the words people use here as every so often, they have their root in Old Norse words that made it into modern Danish. I am informed by someone else that "lig" is still in use but its meaning has been distorted slightly when used in Yorkshire.
A lot of words have been passed from England to Denmark, and from Denmark to Scotland and back again between England and Denmark.
Most of these words that are mixed into the native spoken language, are a result of fishermen, finding shelter from a stormy sea.
For instance... Along the eastern shores of eighter Scotland or England, the open/close signs have a phrase, that are a long sentence.
Wich say something like "Com in og have a kik/look" or something like that. I don't remember it that well, as I had it explained
by my father, when we were in northern england/scotland on vacation in 1988. I was 12 years old at that time.
I was only told this, as my father used to teach history and geography at a gymnasium (highschool for americans) here in Denmark.
The vacation was all about to see stuff like hadrians wall, wales, stone henge, old monastry ruins such as Whitby abbey and so on.
Mostly roman remains/roads and stuff from henry the 8'ths time (the ruins) yeah... We even went to isle of man.
Today, we still use the word "lig" wich in modern danish means "corpse/dead body". | |
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| Hello everybody,
My name is Peter, on internet I'm hidding behind LordMMX nickname. I run two youtube channels called MP-Tuners Productions and MP-TunersTechTips. I really like old computers, as my first machine was IBM PS/2 model 55 in 1999 - and that's not a typo.
anyway right now I'm in process of collecting and rebuilding some old computers and I have amd K6-II based retro gaming machine running Windows.... ME... Yes, a millennium. I used that OS for years and never ran into any problems or compatibility issues.
Thanks for this forum, I hope to find many interesting things and talk to you guys about old stuff. | |
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TM Crusoe
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Location: Hull, UK | Howdy and welcome aboard, LordMMX. Hey, I wasn't doing much better in '99, got my first machine in 1997 and kept running it until 2001, a PS/ValuePoint 325T. Hardly noticed any lack in performance or capability as I was just glad to own a computer at all at that time. Haha, the Duron that replaced it was a hell of a leap but it probably says something that the ValuePoint still works, the Duron doesn't.
Can't beat a K6-2 and there's nothing wrong with showing Windows ME some love, to be honest I always kinda liked it when it worked anyway. Looking forward to your contributions to the discussion here. | |
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| Thank you DXZeff. Well, I had PS/2 model 55, then custom build i486-dx2 with turbo button in full tower case with red switch and display that I just can't find anywhere anymore and I would love to own one. Then I had Pentium MMX 200mhz with 128mb ram and voodoo 1, that was a beast. and then I had Duron clocked at 850mhz... that was loud, hot and rather slow machine.
Yes, I used to run Windows ME on pentium machine and on duron for over 5 years before switching to XP SP2. I always wait for some time before switching to newer os. but I think, Win7 will be the last Windows for me.
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TM Crusoe
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Location: Hull, UK | I briefly had a PMMX 166 between the 325T and Duron, but only as a stopgap for a very short time. My Duron was a 750MHz model but saw out upgrades to 950MHz and 1800MHz before the board died. I liked the machine, but it was made with very cheap parts and I could probably have done better if I had been more certain of what I was doing. Mine ran Windows 98SE for most of its life, I never really liked XP and didn't move to it until ~2005 when I went Dual Core and my board gave me no choice. I had a dual P3 by then, still have it, but that was always a Windows 2000 machine.
I always wait with anything new for the patches or second revisions to appear, hardware and software. The first release of anything is usually broken in some way and isn't worth the hassle. I actually never really got along with Windows 7 at all, but I like Windows 10 for the simple reason that it works for me and it works well. I can, however, see why some people have a strong dislike for it and that's fine. Admittedly, I still spend far too much time in Windows 3.11 than I probably should anyway. | |
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UMC U5S
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| I collect old machines with an emphasis on 8-bit ISA stuff like 5150s and early compatibles. I don't like the formalities other vintage computer forums impose on discussion. Com'on guys, we're not talking about famous statues just cheap plastic consumer shit that most of us find at thrift stores for $2. | |
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | Howdy!
8-Bit ISA, now that's hardcore, feel free to post about what you have (probably in this thread) as I'd definitely be interested in seeing it because I have had very little experience with pre-286 machines as I had to sell the one I had many years ago. I do still have a turbo 8088 laptop though. | |
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Slow 8088
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | Hi.
I'm sure I've seen that user name somewhere? | |
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Intel P5
Posts: 85
Location: UK | Hiya All,
found my way here while googling for jumper settings for a UMC 486 super 40! lol
I see a lot of names I recognize here from Vogons where my user ID is BSA Starfire.
Anyhow, I'm Chris from the south west UK. I Don't get a lot of time these days for forums what with work and all but hopefully can participate and have some interesting disscusions.
All the best,
Chris | |
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | I remember BSA Starfire from my time on those boards, it's good to see you over here dude. | |
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Intel P5
Posts: 85
Location: UK | Thanks chap, nice to be here. | |
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Chips 386
Posts: 37
| /maybe I should revive the thread. Maybe not
...anyway, I'm Alex, a guy from that "Eastern Bloc" - more precise, western part of Russia. As you see, I'm not good at jokes, same with my English - it may be quite lame at times. Still, I'm following DXZeff's channel for few years now... Well, excluding my hiatus (from youtube in general) during huge part of '17... sigh, boring lines. And too many stumbles. I'm just glad to join the forum, even I'm mostly a silent visitor / reader.
Got my first micro in my early schooldays, ~1991: ZX 128 (ex-soviet clone), even with a 5.25" drive (such a power! sigh). ..And that's quite a long (also boring) story, but the system was replaced with Turbo XT later during autumn of '93.
I'm still addicted to such 'obsolete' stuff. I have some other addictions and desires but... this one takes a noticeable part of my life. At least it helps to avoid of blue mood, boringness etc. Not a most bad way to spend time here on Earth. | |
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | Welcome to the board.
Soviet ZX Spectrum clone, eh? I have one of those, a 'Byte' from Belarus, it's the only Spectrum that ever worked for me as the official ones always break.
This forum isn't always very active, but things do get posted from time to time, I definitely should have a few things to post on these boards soon, just waiting on it getting here. | |
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Chips 386
Posts: 37
| @DXZeff
At least the original Speccy got its own design: I may even excuse those rubber keys because of its presence :)
Soviet clones - many of them lack of any decent casing. Not to mention design. You were able to buy a board, even an unfilled one to solder it by yourself, but keyboards and boxes... That was the main issue.
Horrible keys, ugly boxes.. heh
I'm like an old grumbler. Actualy, Byte wasn't that bad. Comparing to many others, lol. And I recall easily some guys around ZX from Belarus - they were a noticeable part of Speccy scene as I remember it. Creative ones.
Some of them moved to Gameboy dev later.
One more line: almost an every major city here got its own clone. So you could come to, let's say, Perestroika town, go to a radio store and find another wild version.
Dozens of them.
Sigh. To thin my grumbling - a shot of my Speccy keyboard. (And why I don't feel any shame because of that mud?) The keycaps resemble of those on Byte, I believe:
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Fujitsu 186
Posts: 7
| Hello there !
So my name on the internet is Nintenloup Wolf (yeah cringy I know) and I'm a french canadian (wolf) who lives in Québec, been following Hightreason for several years. Big furry trash (I'll spare you any details) and I spend most of my free time playing with old computers (and looking at furry pr0n) since it is what I'm given by people or find at a really cheap price. I have from the 8088 to the fx-8350 (my main radiator) and I just love old tech, from vinyls to digital cameras. I also love doing things with dos (625k of free conventional ram ! I also was able to have 736k of conventional memory at some point) and just playing with it's possibilities.
Hope you'll like the wolf | |
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Chips 386
Posts: 37
| Hey Wolf! Cheers from another newcomer :)
Lycanthrope or... shapeshifter!? lol. However, wolf or plain human, I hope you'll find this forum as a good place to look in sometimes. It feels like a cozy one.
Sigh, and I should be ashamed of my ~550 KB of conv. memory: still need to work on both config.sys and autoexec.bat (and I also have an obsessive wish to play with DR DOS!). I'm too lazy >__>
P.S. my World of Warcraft feral druid also sends /cheer ("shameful addictions" in the thread, kind of; and I haven't visited him for years, that's a pain)
Edited by twm 2018-06-02 6:54 PM
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Fujitsu 186
Posts: 7
| I'm a feral wolf
I think I'll love this forum, been playing with old computers since 7 years now (god does time fly fast) so I'm not a noob in term of what this forum is about ^^ | |
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Chips 386
Posts: 37
| Do you have an active Youtube channel? I'm more of an occasional visitor there (day-by-day tasks - sometimes they take too much time), yet I like to listen to HW ramble and to explore 'legacy' cool stuff. | |
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Fujitsu 186
Posts: 7
| Yes I do have one, sadly I speak french, so unless you can understand it... | |
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Chips 386
Posts: 37
| I have a long-lasting temptation to learn - some French books and movies impress me seriously to think about it, but... that's not enough: there will be no progress without an actual study (obviously). Laziness and other duties win at this point.
/laziness is an unbeatable thing, lol (and I need to build a shelving to store CRTs there, but... that old enemy is here: I bought shelves, still need to buy the rest of the construction and assemble it; a half-year has passed) A sudden sad post, makes me laugh.
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Fujitsu 186
Posts: 7
| Oh I know, but for me it's not lazyness but this is not the right place to talk about that, but yess, I have some things that I wanted to do years ago and still haven't done. | |
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Slow 8088
Posts: 1
Location: New Zealand | Hi All,
I'm Unobsolete from New Zealand. I'm into vintage computer systems and audio equipment. I have a few systems that i'm in the process of getting working and will be posting my progress on here as soon as i get the projects off the ground. I have been watching Hightreason's youtube videos for years now as well as Waybacktech.
My first pc system was a
Intel 486DX 4 100Mhz
8MB of 32 Pin Ram
800MB Connor IDE Drive
1MB VLB Cirrus Logic Video Card
Sound Blaster 16 ISA Sound Card
VLB Dual IDE Interface Card
Windows 3.1 & DOS 6.22
14 Inch CRT Monitor
That system got me through high school and was used quite a bit during the weekends to play duke nukem 3d, doom and rise of the triad. 2001-2004. It was second hand then.
I'm in the process of building another system like it but am still in need of a few parts and a case before it will be working again but i will post with i finally get it working.
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | Figured it would be good manners to say welcome to the boards, even though I'm sure we already spoke on Discord. Obviously I wish you the best of luck with this system, always had a soft spot for the 486. | |
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Fujitsu 186
Posts: 6
| Evening everyone.. The names Howard.. I've gone by the alias of H something or other (with a prefix or suffix of some kind) on numerous other forums and places around dhat there interwebnetz thing.. I've been getting involved in number live streams on PornTu.. Urgh Fuu.. I Mean.. YouTube! YOU TUBE! (not that there's much a difference now.. IS there? *cue a long pause for thought* as of late.. Just out of sheer fucking boardem of being out a decent paying job and stuck living the dole.. YAY! (NOT..)
I've had a long standing.. (if somewhat.. unhealthy.. Though it's not as bad as it used to be.. Honest 'Guv *cough*) obsession with these number crunching box thingamys people like to use.. It all started in my mid childhood when dearest mumsy brought me a very used n abused ZX Spectrum 2 128K+ (mien gott.. what a stinking pile of shit that thing was) to her later disdain.. of course..
After a few years of watching HT's channel and seeing he'd set up his forum about what? Nearly three years ago now? I've been meaning to join just for a looksee.. And now finally gotten a fucking around to it.. I suppose.. I also have a number of systems.. Though my little “collection” (if you could call it that) is mostly x86 PeeCee based hardware.. in varying degrees of complete and semi-functional unfinished systems.. I've let a number of projects slide.. Due to having a lack of time/money/inclination left to finish them.. So I really do kinda need to get my fugg'n shit together.. | |
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | Howdy, Howard.
I'd like to say something nice about the ZX Spectrum but have yet to find one that actually works, it seems either the keyboard membrane fails or the RF box doesn't want to play ball... umm... I have a working soviet version, but no reliable way to interface it with a TV as yet. Although the ZX Spectrum version of some music is coming in handy for learning a song right now as the tones are much closer to actual notes than the C64 version I'm used to hearing.
The boards here aren't super active a lot of the time, but interesting things do show up occasionally. | |
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Fujitsu 186
Posts: 6
| Well.. If your thinking about getting one.. I'd recommend a genuine Sinclair ZX.. (such as, the last 64 and 128k "Toast rack" originals) And not one of Mr Sugars cheap arse Sinclair branded shit boxes..
Those fucking tape load errors where the bane of my existence.. Plus trying to find tapes for the fucking thing as a child.. (around the time when every other kid's who's parents could afford it, had ROM cartridge based NESs SNESs and Mega Drives) was borderline impossible.. The shit box 286 Olivetti my father got me after that.. Where everything loaded of one disk.. ONE DISK! felt like a world apart..
I'm not really a fan of General Instruments AY series of PSGs.. They never seemed to get the best out of them in micro computers.. Unlike when they where used on arcade boards.. It pains me to say it.. But Commodores SID series whacks the living snot out of everything else.. With some chip that was made by Philips, coming in a close second.. It was some kinda stereo PSG that was used in the Sam Coupe.. (Now good look finding one of them for "reasonable" money nowadays.. Heh eh) and some other micro puters n arcade boards.
I don't expect this place to be anything like the private forum I used to hang around on was.. It used to originally be for a game clan I was in, but at it's peek.. when it's the guy who owned it allowed friends of ours to join.. It swelled up into monster he and his wife and daughter could just about mange.. Though it started to slowly die off around 2009-10.. There was hardly anyone active anymore when he pulled the plug on the sever in early 2014.. It was a say day.. But as they say.. All good things must come to an end.
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Slow 8088
Posts: 3
| Hello, i've been a long time fan of DXZeff's YouTube channel and today was the first time i really checked out his profile there and saw the website and this cool forum.
Im into everything electronic - be that computers as a whole or similar devices. I work as a telecom engineer and this gives me access to cool old and new electronic devices and field installations.
My hobbies are repairing computers and phones, video games and collecting warez.
Id like to share my first PC, it still works but i no longer have an AT PSU, floppy drive and a working hard drive with small storage space (i dont think the expansion card would address anything manufactured later than 1990), and there is a potentially leaky BIOS battery
Edited by 3dfx 2019-02-08 1:10 AM
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | Howdy.
Oh nice, 486 gear. You might want to take that battery off before it does any damage, you can always connect an external one if you want to use the board later.
I've heard of Pravetz, have never owned one, only clone I have from further that way is a Byte from Belarus.
Anyways, welcome to the board, it's quiet around here but things do happen, sometimes. | |
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Harris 286
Posts: 19
| Hello everyone! I'm Rawit, I work in IT and I found this place through High Treason's YouTube channel. I like the late 80's/90's/early 2000's computer era with all its unique hardware and software.
Currently running the following system for my retro fix:
- Advantech MediaGX board with a Cyrix / NS 233Mhz GX1 CPU;
- I-O Data S3 Savage4 card with DFP out;
- Gravis UltraSound ACE 1.1.
Not really era specific but all of the hardware has drivers for Windows 3.11 and DOS which is what I prefer to run. My other retro "system" is a Sharp PC-1360 pocket computer.
Edited by Rawit 2019-02-18 12:11 PM
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | Welcome, Rawit.
The MediaGX is something I have yet to play with myself, though they're basically a Cx5x86 core from what I understand, hows the performance? Does the GUS pull the system down or increase load times? | |
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Harris 286
Posts: 19
| Performance is a bit unpredictable at times. I didn't run any benchmarks on it except for framerate checks in games. According to the game MDK it sits around Pentium 90 performance. This is with the S3 card, as the integrated solution will decrease performance a lot and isn't compatible. When I got the system (with it's integrated video) Quake ran around 15fps in chained VGA. After installing the S3 Savage, replacing the supplied 256MB SDRAM stick with 32MB SDRAM stick for faster timings and optimizing Cyrix CPU register settings I get 27fps in chained VGA. I didn't run into any speed sensitive issues yet like the Borland > 200Mhz, perhaps because the lack of L2 cache.
It's almost the perfect system for me except for one thing... With my GUS I can't get 16-bit DMA to work properly. When I've used the XpressAudio as SB16, it seems the GUS hangs on DMA transfers. Using 8-bit DMA for the GUS solves this, but I can notice the performance decrease in some games. I've tried wait states, different DMA channels and disabling 16-bit DMA for the XpressAudio, but the problem still remains. One thing I've noticed is that Wolfenstein 3D locks up the GUS with 16-bit DMA instantly with it's Audio Detect routine. When I run a game with the XpressAudio in SB16 mode for effects and the GUS with 16-bit DMA for music it runs, but running any software that uses the GUS afterwards makes the system hang. I'm contemplating if a GUS PnP would solve the issues because of it's different init/PnP nature/resources known to the BIOS. | |
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | Sounds about right for that CPU core I guess, without cache anyway.
Honestly I think there's always something wrong with the GUS classic, invariably something won't work when setting it up, I've never had it go smoothly and software has always complained of one issue or another regardless of which system the card is in or which version of the drivers is used. Unfortunately I can't offer any input on whether a PNP version would fix the problem due to having no experience with those, also the sheer cost of them brings into question whether they're worth having, given their limited compatibility and the fact that pretty much everything that is compatible was written to work within the limits of the classic. I suppose you could try assigning the GUS' DMA and such to 'Legacy ISA' manually in the BIOS, maybe even don't use PNP for the rest of the system at all. Even some PCI cards don't like having to deal with Plug 'n' Pray boards, so the GUS likely isn't a fan of them either. | |
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Harris 286
Posts: 19
| Yeah it seems I was lucky back in the day. The number of FAQs give a good impression how finicky the GUS can be. Thanks for the advice, double checked that yesterday and swapped the GUS with another one just to see that made a difference but alas.
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Harris 286
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| Hi guys, been reading the forum over the last few days and you seemed like my kind of people. Been messing with PC compatibles since early 90s, some 8 bits before that, Amigas in the middle for a time. I've been too busy or sick to get hands on the last decade or so, so have had all my older crap hidden at the back of the basement. Hoping to get it all out and start playing with it again. Still a bit short of energy until I get a procedure done in a few months, so mostly dinking around with dosbox at the moment. I currently haunt parts of southern Ontario, Canada, left of Toronto and down a bit.
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | Howdy, welcome to the forum.
Here's hoping you're able to dig that stuff out some day, it'd be a shame to waste it. | |
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Harris 286
Posts: 20
| Thanks. Yes, things move gradually, but only in like low range rock crawling gear. Work area is clogged up at the moment with a couple of "modern" C2Q projects, one a media server/multihead PVR deally, the other a desktop for general use, maybe a little gaming, since I got out of the habit a few years ago when I got an i5 laptop. Not sure if it would make most sense to work backwards chronologically, since it's easier to "bootstrap" older systems in terms of media etc with one only a few years older. I had built/rebuit a P3 800? system a half dozen years ago intended as a bridge system for going through all my old disks and hard drives, that is sitting in the work area so is accessible. | |
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Rise MP6
Posts: 263
| Hi Guys, another newbie here!
Can't say I'm into the retro scene, as such, since it's all I've ever known. All my bloody computers are retro! It's a bit of a pain really, I can't afford any new sh*t and now it seems I can't afford any old sh*t either!
Anyway, enough rambling, thanks for having me onboard and Happy New Year! Which is the same sh*t really but with a bigger number.... | |
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TM Crusoe
Posts: 618
Location: Hull, UK | I've been there before, man, I think most of us have at some point.
Anyways, welcome aboard.
P.S. You don't have to worry about censoring your cusswords on this board. | |
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Rise MP6
Posts: 263
| Thanks for the welcome! | |
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